Nikon 105 mm f1.4 review năm 2024
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I was originally going to focus this thread on a number of Nikon lenses, but to streamline the point I will focus solely on the Nikon 105mm 1.4E. It has a "great" reputation as one of the "sharpest lenses" with dreamy bokeh, and all that nonsense. I won't address the lens defects for this thread. I will simply state: the lens is not capable of resolving over 36mp, and is only sharp at 36mp or less. Now, now... before you start. Yes, there will always be a slight boost in performance using a higher megapixel sensor. That isn't what I'm referring to. We can use lenses like the 200mm F/2, 300mm F/2.8, Zeiss Otus 85mm 1.4 as our "standards" for sharpness, bokeh, etc. If these lenses can resolve 45mp sensors without this type of loss in performance, so should the 105mm 1.4E, right? If one lens is as sharp at 36mp as it is at 45mp, and the Nikon 105mm 1.4E is not --- the conclusion is simple. After all --- Why buy a $2,200 lens that can't resolve current camera sensors, and more importantly future camera sensors? Above we find the example sourced from CameraLabs.com (https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-nikkor-af-s-105mm-f1-4e-ed-review/3/). This is the performance of the Nikkor 105mm 1.4E on a 36 megapixel sensor. Purple fringing aside, the image is reasonably sharp but it is also appearing softer than it should. However, look what happens when the 105mm 1.4E is put on a 46 megapixel sensor: sourced from CameraLabs.com (https://www.cameralabs.com/sigma-105mm-f1-4-art-review/2/): The image is incredibly soft when compared to the Sigma 105mm F/1.4 ART, the Sigma 135mm 1.8 ART, the Zeiss OTUS 85mm 1.4 from CameraLabs. I can also confirm there is zero image degradation on a Nikkor 200mm F2 VR1, or Nikkor 300mm 2.8 VR1 at 45mp. The Nikon 28mm 1.4E likewise shows no difference between 36 and 45mp. Nothing like we are seeing here. Sharpness vs Resolving Power: We consider that certain lenses are designed to be softer wide open. These lenses are softer on 36mp, and on 46mp. They are "portrait" lenses. Some people even make claims that "clinical sharpness" is not preferred in portrait lenses. However, the 200mm F/2 dispels these nonsense claims, as does the OTUS 85mm 1.4. If those lenses resolve 46mp with the quality of images they produce then the Nikon 105mm 1.4E should be able to do so as well. Just as importantly --- a lens that is a certain sharpness at 24, or 36mp should be the same level of sharpness at 45mp if it is capable of resolving 45mp. We should not see this level of image degradation moving to 46mp on the Nikon 105mm 1.4E. The Nikon 105mm 1.4E is simply not capable of fully resolving 46mp (it can barely resolve 36mp), and is barely sharper than the outdated Nikon 85mm 1.4G --- which is also incapable of resolving 46mp. Many, Many lenses from Nikon and others are struggling to resolve higher megapixel sensors. Do your research. Carefully evaluate the bodies and lenses you plan to use. MOD TOF guy • Forum Pro • Posts: 16,976 Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 17, 2022 Misfocused chart -- hide signature -- Thierry - posted as regular forum member Nikon Z9 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 12-24mm f/4G ED-IF Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8G ED Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR Sigma 150mm F2.8 EX DG OS Macro HSM +10 more Michiel953 • Contributing Member • Posts: 806 Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to TOF guy • Mar 17, 2022 Here we go again. So many misconceptions, too many to address. -- hide signature -- I'll play it first, and tell you what it is later Nikon D850 Nikon D810 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24mm f/1.4G ED Nikon AF-S Nikkor 35mm f/1.4G Nikon AF-S Nikkor 58mm f/1.4G +3 more Hasa • Senior Member • Posts: 1,578 Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 17, 2022 MrNikkor wrote: Field curvature / misfocused chart. Obviously you would not expect much more CA in the center than at the edges, so to me that is a giveaway that something is wrong with this test. I always look at different sources to see if they align. DxO has a different take, that 1) shows that YES the 105 mm f1.4 lens resolves significantly more detail at 45 MP than at 36 MP, so YES more pixels matters a lot. This is NOT true e.g. for the 24mm F1.4g (23 MP vs. 25MP)
So I do not agree with your conclusion. In my opinion... The 105mm f1.4 is a dedicated portrait lens with emphasis on center sharpness wide open, bokeh and smooth rendering. The 85mm f1.8s is more of a landscape lens comparable to the F-mount 85mm f.1.8 that I own. The 85mm f1.8s appears to have gotten rid of most of the longitudinal CA that the 85mm f1.8g suffers from and enhanced resolution even more that the already excellent 85mm f1.,8g -- hide signature -- Smile and the world smiles back! Nikon D800 Nikon Z7 Nikon Z50 Nikon Z9 Nikon AF Nikkor 20mm f/2.8D +29 more John Crowe • Veteran Member • Posts: 3,928 Missed focus, and 36 MP is poor too. In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 17, 2022 Looks like missed focus at least on the 45 MP. Looks poor on 36 MP too, so likely missed focus there too. Canon EOS 5DS R Canon EF 70-200mm F4L USM Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L Venus Laowa 12mm F2.8 Zero-D Kenko Teleplus Pro 300 AF 1.4x +15 more OP MrNikkor • New Member • Posts: 19 Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to Hasa • Mar 17, 2022 Hasa wrote: DXO Mark claims the 105mm 1.4E on the D850 sharpness is 40 DXO Mark claims the 200mm F2 on the D850 is 41. DXO Mark claims the 300mm F2.8 on the D850 is 38. Except that the 200mm F2, 300mm F2.8 make the 105mm 1.4E look blurry by comparison. That was the reason I didn't keep the lens. When you look at the MTF Charts of the 105mm Nikkor, this is made clear why. It is simply not capable of resolving 46mp. When you look at the MTF of the Sigma, it is clear why it is. I've used the three lenses side by side. You clearly haven't. Again, your claim that this is a "dedicated portrait lens with emphasis on center sharpness wide open" blows your theory out of the water. The lens is clearly struggling at 45mp vs 36mp. It does not explain why the 105mm is LESS SHARP on 46 mp than it is at 36mp when other lenses do NOT have these issues just by switching to a larger sensor. The 85mm 1.8G is simply another lens that does not resolve 46mp, and has nothing to do with this conversation. You are in denial. The 105mm 1.4E Nikon cannot resolve 46mp. OP MrNikkor • New Member • Posts: 19 Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to TOF guy • Mar 17, 2022 TOF guy wrote: Misfocused chart You say that to derail the thread --- likely because you own a 105mm 1.4 Nikon and are in denial - but sadly this is not the case. When I tested my copy of the Nikon 105mm 1.4E it was no where near as sharp as the 200mm F2. The chart tests you see aren't mine. They're to demonstrate the point : The Nikon 105mm 1.4E is a low resolving lens, with poor image quality even at 36mp, let alone 45mp. Fast forward to the 28mm 1.4E, which is just as sharp as the 200mm F2, 300mm F2.8 --- and yes, the Sigma 105mm 1.4. If your claim is that it was a mis-test, you are deluding yourselves. MOD TOF guy • Forum Pro • Posts: 16,976 Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 17, 2022 MrNikkor wrote:TOF guy wrote: Misfocused chartlikely because you own a 105mm 1.4 Nikon and are in denial No, I don’t (see gear listed in my profile), nor do I intend to buy one When I tested my copy of the Nikon 105mm 1.4E it was no where near as sharp as the 200mm F2. Please share your methodology and results The chart tests you see aren't mine. They're to demonstrate the point : The Nikon 105mm 1.4E is a low resolving lens, with poor image quality even at 36mp, let alone 45mp. Because the test chart is misfocused If your claim is that it was a mis-test, you are deluding yourselves. Or I can recognize a flawed test when I see one 😀 -- hide signature -- Thierry - posted as regular forum member Nikon Z9 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 12-24mm f/4G ED-IF Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8G ED Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR Sigma 150mm F2.8 EX DG OS Macro HSM +10 more MOD TOF guy • Forum Pro • Posts: 16,976 Re: Missed focus, and 36 MP is poor too. John Crowe wrote: Looks like missed focus at least on the 45 MP. Looks poor on 36 MP too, so likely missed focus there too. Yes that’s 100.% obvious -- hide signature -- Thierry - posted as regular forum member Nikon Z9 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 12-24mm f/4G ED-IF Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8G ED Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR Sigma 150mm F2.8 EX DG OS Macro HSM +10 more John Crowe • Veteran Member • Posts: 3,928 The 200/2 is in a league of it's own. In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 17, 2022 I find it hard to believe that any of those lenses is sharp as a 200/2. I would be shocked if the 105 was anywhere near as sharp as the 200/2. The 200/2 is in a league of it's own. I assume you are testing for the same subject view, hence different subject/sensor plane distances. Canon EOS 5DS R Canon EF 70-200mm F4L USM Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L Venus Laowa 12mm F2.8 Zero-D Kenko Teleplus Pro 300 AF 1.4x +15 more Hexlord79 • Regular Member • Posts: 454 Re: Missed focus, and 36 MP is poor too. I am actually more inclined to look at real world sample images rather than rely on these charts. The sample shots in the link provided by OP are pretty decent. Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7 Olympus E-M1 Nikon D780 Nikon Df Nikon D200 +4 more afoton • Senior Member • Posts: 1,892 Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 18, 2022 MrNikkor wrote: It has a "great" reputation as one of the "sharpest lenses" with dreamy bokeh, and all that nonsense. I won't address the lens defects for this thread. If I ever get a 105mm/1.4, it will be because of the big aperture, the bokeh and whatever you will call nonsense. Not how it reproduce test charts, because test charts is not what I will use it for. For reprodusing test charts, I would choose another lens, not a f/1.4-lens. For most photgraphers, a better tripod is probably just as important than the lens. Re: Sorry - but In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 18, 2022 Sorry - but - your perception of how image resolution is created is contradicted by optical physics. The lens and the sensor/film each separately contribute to image resolution. A higher resolving lens contributes more to image resolution, as does a higher resolving sensor. Even so image resolution never reaches 100% of what a lens can resolve without a body attached; or what a sensor can resolve without a lens attached. What you are saying seems similar to claiming if you fall gravity pulls you up toward the sky and not down toward the ground. -- hide signature -- Leonard Shepherd In lots of ways good photography is much more about how equipment is used rather than anything else. Nikon Z9 Nikon Z8 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm F4G ED VR Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 200mm f/4D ED-IF Nikon AF-S Teleconverter TC-17E II +22 more Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 18, 2022 You're so utterly clueless about lens performance and evaluation it isn't even worth bothering to deal with you. Goodbye. -m Michiel953 • Contributing Member • Posts: 806 Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp The "outdated" 85/1.4G, another lens rubbished by the OP, and apparently incapable of resolving past 36 Mp. I used mine a couple of days ago on my D850 for a portrait session. Window light, very close up, f4.0. It didn't resolve anything. At all. The OP must be right. -- hide signature -- I'll play it first, and tell you what it is later Nikon D850 Nikon D810 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24mm f/1.4G ED Nikon AF-S Nikkor 35mm f/1.4G Nikon AF-S Nikkor 58mm f/1.4G +3 more Unfortunately you have no clue at all... In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 18, 2022 ... and so your post is totally worthless. And to the mod TOFguy: Can't you see the obvious here? ___________________ always good light jbear • Contributing Member • Posts: 972 Re: Unfortunately you have no clue at all... If a bunch of people really dig a camera and/or lens, and they get fantastic results using that camera and/or lens...you can bet a ton of cash that someone will post something like this. It's like the first law of thermodynamics. Contrarians can neither be created nor destroyed...they just visit different forums. -Julius Mayer/Émilie du Châtelet Nikon D500 Nikon D750 Nikon D7200 Nikon D300 Nikon D200 +46 more Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 19, 2022 LOL Nikon Z9 Nikon Z8 Nikon Z 70-200 F2.8 VR Nikon Z 20mm F1.8 Nikon 500mm F5.6E PF +16 more OP MrNikkor • New Member • Posts: 19 Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 19, 2022 Everyone who is claiming mis-focus is just in denial. The MTF of the lenses show that the Nikon 105 1.4E is barely any sharper than the 85mm 1.4G. The 85mm 1.4G is very soft wide open, but it also cannot resolve 46mp. There is significant sharpness loss from 36 to 45. Lens sharpness should remain consistent, despite whatever camera its attached to. If a lens is less sharp at 45mp, than 36mp where other lenses do not suffer the same issue then it's easy to determine the cause, isn't it? The Nikon 28mm F1.4E does not suffer from this issue going from 36 to 45 mp. The Nikon 200mm F2 does not suffer from this issue going from 36 to 45 mp. The Nikon 300mm F2.8 does not suffer from this issue going from 36 to 45 mp. The Nikon 105mm DOES suffer from this issue going from 36 to 45 mp. The Sigma 105mm 1.4 does NOT suffer from this issue going from 36 to 45mp. Clearly, the lot of you have no understanding of logic, design, or are simply lacking any intelligence. This is fundamental basics of optics. It is nothing short of failure to resolve past a certain megapixel range. The lens is simply too old of a design, or a poor design in the case of the Nikkor 105mm 1.4E. Stay in denial all you like. The Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 46 megapixels. It is a terrible, terrible lens. It simply lacks the capability of it based on its resolving power. Again, review the MTFs --- it is BARELY sharper than the 85mm 1.4G, which has the same issues with resolving power. If you use it below 36mp, it's acceptable. Otherwise, the sensor is wildly outperforming the capability of the lens. Michiel953 • Contributing Member • Posts: 806 Re: Nikon 105mm 1.4E cannot resolve 45mp In reply to MrNikkor • Mar 19, 2022 MrNikkor wrote: Yes, the 85/1.4G (use it on my D850) and the 105/1.4E are terrible lenses. Hope this helps. -- hide signature -- I'll play it first, and tell you what it is later Nikon D850 Nikon D810 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24mm f/1.4G ED Nikon AF-S Nikkor 35mm f/1.4G Nikon AF-S Nikkor 58mm f/1.4G +3 more Keyboard shortcuts: FForum MMy threads Latest sample galleriesLatest in-depth reviewsThe Nikon Zf is a 24MP full-frame mirrorless camera with classic looks that adds the latest Expeed 7 processor and features such as 3D Tracking AF to the $2000 price bracket. We're not sure the experience lives up to the looks. The Sony a9 III is the world's first full-frame mirrorless camera to feature a global electronic shutter with simultaneous readout. 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